Posted by Steve on July 06, 2003 at 08:44:49:
In Reply to: Re: Microislet JDRF Hybrid Funding posted by klausen on July 06, 2003 at 01:21:52:
Regarding lend-lease please read the following and don't fall into believing the old soviet propaganda, you are smarter than that. The soviets were near collapse when the USA started with lend-lease. The US sent over $11 billion to the Soviets, $31 billion to the UK:
"The Role of Lend-Lease in Soviet Military
Efforts, 1941-1945" by BORIS V. SOKOLOV,
"Speaking about our readiness for war from the point of view of the economy and economics, one cannot be silent about such a factor as the subsequent help from the Allies. First of all, certainly, from the American side, because in that respect the English helped us minimally. In an analysis of all facets of the war, one must not leave this out of one's reckoning. We would have been in a serious condition without American gunpowder, and could not have turned out the quantity of ammunition which we needed. Without American `Studebekkers' [sic], we could have dragged our artillery nowhere. Yes, in general, to a considerable degree they provided ourfront transport. The output of special steel, necessary for the most diverse necessities of war, were also connected to a series of American deliveries."
Moreover, Zhukov underscored that `we entered war while still continuing to be a backward country in an industrial sense in comparison with Germany. Simonov's truthful recounting of these meetings with Zhukov, which took place in 1965 and 1966, are corraborated by the utterances of G. Zhukov, recorded as a result of eavesdropping by security organs in 1963:
"It is now said that the Allies never helped us . . . However, one cannot deny that the Americans gave us so much material, without which we could not have formed our reserves and ***could not have continued the war*** . . . we had no explosives and powder. There was none to equip rifle bullets. The Americans actually came to our assistance with powder and explosives. And how much sheet steel did they give us. We really could not have quickly put right our production of tanks if the Americans had not helped with steel. And today it seems as though we had all this ourselves in abundance."
These are the percentages of the total available to the Soviet military and industry that were supplied by America:
80% of all canned meat.
92% of all railroad locomotives, rolling stock and rails.
57% of all aviation fuel.
53% of all explosives.
74% of all truck transport.
88% of all radio equipment.
53% of all copper.
56% of all aluminum.
60+% of all automotive fuel.
74% of all vehicle tires.
12% of all armored vehicles.
14% of all combat aircraft.
The list includes a high percentage of the high grade steel, communications cable, canned foods of all types, medical supplies, and virtually every modern machine tool(400,000 of them) used by Soviet industry. Not to mention the know-how required to use and maintain this equipment.
Regarding your moral assertions:
First there is no starvation in the US. Certainly someone on the boat that had caught an excess of fish would feed the injured and elderly out of true charity and the catch would still be higher.